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Interview with Charles, m ray, Leon, Jean, Accountant, Hot attorney, Lil Will and Cam
JM: Did you always have access to necessary medications?
Charles: No, but i didn't ask. i am on anti depressants. I
choose not to ask for them because I know they
wouldn't be dispensed properly, nor received in a
timely manner. in theory they will give you meds,
but it will not be a fast process.
m ray: no
Leon: Don't know I didn't need any.
Jean: Let's go back to that. I was diagnosed with breast cancer, and
that was the first thing I told them. They asked if I had any
medical problems, and I said I don't have medical problems, but
I do have a medical problem. I've been diagnosed with breast
cancer, and I'm going to need medical attention. That's how I
got into the infirmary. When it's all said and done, dude, my
boyfriend had to go down to South Padre Island, 'cause that's
where we were living, and get all of my medial records and bring
them to the jail house because they weren't willing to take me
for a mammogram because they thought I was making it up. So
I stayed in the infirmary for probably three months before I got
my first doctor's appointment. I was in the infirmary, and that
wasn't until my boyfriend go tall of the medical records, and
they had something that might have made them think I might
have been sick. If the truth be known, had I not been released
when I had, because I just got done with all my chemo and
reconstruction - that all started immediately when I got out of
jail. I was down there two and a half years ago. If I'd have stayed
in there much longer, I would have probably died. They weren't
about to take care of me. They wouldn't give me any pain pills.
What they gave me was ibuprofen, and I ate those things like
candy. I would trade them for pain pills.
Accountant: No.
And I have a "trait" that causes my health to
fluctuate, and when I buzzed for medical
attention, I was told to "hold on"..........no
one ever showed up.
Hot attorney: No. I was denied basic medical care while in
jail.
Lil Will: dont take them
Cam: No....
JM: How did you get your medications?
Charles: N/A
m ray: it took months to get my meds
Leon: By going to the nurse it took many days sometimes to see the
nurse though.
Jean: They have what they call BYB's, which is By Your Bed. I had control
of my ibuprofen. I had a whole pallet of it. I would take two or
three a day - whatever it took to keep that knot down. My meds
were at my bed, but I didn't have any pain meds. Anything that is
like that, they make you get up for.
Accountant: N/A
Cam: you had to put in a kite to see the nurse and
then wait, wait, wait, wait, put in another kite
to see the nurse and wait some more..finally
about 3 weeks later you see the nurse..they go
through your medical history..then they have you
sign a waiver giving them permission to check
your medical records from other hospitals that
you visited in the past where you were told that
medication was needed and prescribed to you..
JM: What types of punishments were incurred for abuse of drugs?
Charles: I don't know.
m ray: nothing really
Leon: Not sure.
Jean: Probably would have got solitary confinement, is my guess. I've
had some friends there. It's not really solitary. It is, but it's not.
Basically, all it is is a hallway with 8 or 9 beds in it. You have no
day light or TV. It's on the other side of the infirmary, and I had
friends that got out on bail and came back within 3 weeks, and
she was in solitary on the other side of me, and I could throw
candy bars and stuff to her. So it's not real solitary.
Actually, that reminds me about a rule in Dallas County about
when a female inmate sees a guy inmate. When guys are in the
hallway, which, at Dallas County, they don't really have a work
release for women. They do for guys, so if you're going to the
doctor, or you're going down to commissary, or just moving
around the building, they make the guys stand against the wall
with their faces towards the wall so they can't see the women.
You'd see them, and they'd be outside your cell cleaning the
floors and stuff, but for the most part, they were good about
keeping you separated.
Accountant: N/A
Cam: loss of commissary privileges, loss of
visitation rights, and they could even send you
to a tank that has no tv and is what they call
Full restriction tanks..YOU HAVE NO PRIVILEGES
WHAT SO EVER..
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I worked as a nurse in the George Allen Jail for a year. I've met some of the most seediest, vile and manipulating inmates on this earth (keep in mind this was a maximum security facility). Where the heck do you think you are a hotel or a hospital? You criminals aren't in jail because you've been upstanding citizens it is because you committed a crime. Guess what when you commit a crime in Dallas county and you get caught you go to jail! You have been convicted of a crime and now are being punished. Jail is not a hotel where in which we the employees cater to your every whim. Jail is a scary, disgusting, and a mean place. So if you can't handle it then stop committing crimes. Also one thing I want to know is why are these so called "sick" people going to jail? If you have some terminal illness then you need to be in bed, hospital, or family’s house getting better, not trying to buy crack or prostituting yourself on the street. Don't tell me you weren't getting medication, both because I worked twelve hour shifts and I passed meds for half of the jail twice a day (another nurse passed the other half). Each pass took me two hours to pull thousands of meds from a pyxis then took me three hours to pass the meds. While I passed the meds I would pick up probably fifty kites at each med pass. There were two other nurse that answered kites, tested glucose levels (also gave insulin), saw emergencies, and daily wound care. These two women did this for twelve hours everyday. Plus the medical night shift consists of two nurses that also answered kite, mound care, glucose checks, and see emergencies. We also provided medication for all inmates detoxing for drugs. Also a physician was staffed at George Allen Monday - Friday for eight hours a day. An ob/gyn that saw women once a week. A counselor and a psychiatrist who saw inmates once a week. Lastly dental saw inmates once a week too. Dallas county even offers detox medication for inmates that arrive in book-in that are long term street drug users or alcoholics. Now I've worked in different county jails were they absolutely will not give detox meds and you have to "come down" cold turkey. To sum it up don't commit crimes you will go to jail. If you go to jail don't pretend like you're sick or dying because you take up our time needed for the truly ill. Don't be mad at the jailers or the medical staff we didn't put you in jail, you have no one to blame but yourself. Second the Dallas county inmates aren't paying a single penny for any of the medical care they receive, it comes out of the pockets of law abiding, honest, hard working individuals who aren't in jail. Other county jails actually charge their inmates for each kite they write, seeing the nurse or doctor, and any medication they receive. Finally we nurses care for the individuals that no one else wants to care for i.e. child molesters, rapist, murders, and prostitutes. The Dallas county nurses are contracted to the jail under Parkland Memorial hospital so we get Parkland wages which is considerable less than average salary of a nurse (almost half what the average rate pay for a nurse receives).
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Just because my husband is in jail does not mean he is a bad person. He just made some bad choices and yes he is paying for them now, but just because that he is there doesn't mean he is a horrible individual. He should be one of the least ones in jail, there are people out there everyday commiting crimes still til this day. Yes my husband blames him self so he is trying to serve his time and learn a lesson from this. But there are still high risk criminals out in the streets and when people like my husband that is not a high risk criminal is doing his time so why can't the main ones that commit crimes everyday be where he is at?
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I've never been to jail, but judging by the comments of this so called nurse, I can see how unprofessional the "employed staff" are at this jail. No bounderies what so ever and so so bitter.
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Further more, these inmates are receiving their punishment. They are being punished and serving their time, it doesn't mean they have to continue being judged by people like you. "Let him without sin through the first stone. .."
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Amen...
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First of all patients get seen by priority, some of this inmates have gone years without meds and any kind of medical care even though there is so many government funded programs!They show up in jail and demand meds!! Not all that is written is true!! How about working in any medical floor and experiencing instead of hearing!!
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My aunt has been their serveral weeks and have not been dispense her meds properly and somtime she does not get them and she hast blood clotting issues right now her legs are swollan with infection and you would be the first to know if something happens as we fear for her life right nowW somebody already died a few days ago in the medical department in their room and its being investigated right now so this jail is full of neglect peroid and they messed with the wrong family cause we will see to the bottom of what going on in that jail!
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that is horrible. . .I'm so sorry
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re: pain mgt meds
I never suggested I would expect them to allow him to keep in cell, nor would I want them to. Was that a serious question? Have I ever seen a drug user in jail? Would think most have. I hope you are not ignorant enough to be referring to a patient being treated for pain management as a drug user....?! While, yes one becomes addicted to narcotics, in response for it to be medically necessarry to function, at a minimum lelpl |
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Sorry, Phil, I was just trying to help - what most doctors consider necessary pain management medicine the jails consider unnecessary. That's why they usually only give you ibuprofen in jail. I am not suggesting that somebody taking pain medication is a drug user, I'm just telling you that the jails usually don't make a distinction. Best of luck.
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my partner is in north tower. I an desperately trying to gethlm mess to help take away excruciating pain from spine injury. I am running around in circles. Nobody cares. I jumped thru hoops to get a letter from doctor, all new prescriptions filled totalling $300 that are just sitting in trunk of car... Ugh. How does one even reach TFC medical area? The website says this I'd policy. But, seems to be impossible. Even doctor is floored at lack of care or concern of these inmates, but more particularly the ones in dire need of meds. Anyone help????
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If they are pain pills unfortunately they may just not let them have them. I had a friend in dallas county and all they would give him was ibuprofen, but if the pain is from a spine injury maybe you'll get them to give him a break.
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so jean told medical staff she didn't have a medical problem but she really did. then after lying to them she gets put in the medical section but claims they didn't attempt to help her medically? boo hoo quit your bitching and stop being a leach on society.
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my husband was in for a violation of probation... was on dialysis and was in for over 8days without any medication or dialysis treatment... they would not allow me to bring his meds to him... he could have died an no one would have done anything to prevent it.
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To comment on the self medicated medicine and the regulated medicine. Of course you can't let inmates keep narcotic medicine in the cell with them. Have you ever seen a drug user in jail? What kind of problems would occur if someone was allowed to keep, lets say hydracodone, in the cell with them and self administer. Do you think they would have any left after the first day?
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